[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

going to have another crack at this and remove the sump and see how it sits and what I can do to modify the sump without spacers

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

Heron SSV wrote:

MPW used a custom k frame made out of tube in their All Show VK. They have build videos on YouTube, wouldn’t be cheap but it might be an idea to get you the clearance you need. I think Street Machine did the vids

Hey Heron yes, they have use McDonald brothers racing k frame but it’s deigned for racing and it would be set at the same height as a standard k frame would be nice to have but !!!!!!! very expensive 2500, http://www.mcdonaldbrosracing.com.au/frontsuspensioncommodore.html

 

some one on here did link some photos to face book of a vk getting done and the blower was only 40mm out the bonnet would be interested on what they had done , I could live with that as if I have to modify the bonnet might as well do it with out spacers , read another forum and the spacers still makes blower stick up

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

cava454 wrote:

50mm will make headers a nightmare IMO. Collectors will hang heaps low. will require brake lines etc to be modified. So keep that in mind. It would open a can of worms

 

I hear you cava but the lot is getting modified or changed also building my own headers so the nightmare will be mine if I go this way

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

VRSenator065 wrote:

Just thinking out loud, I assume with a 50mm spacer, you need to compensate with the coil overs adjusted down 50mm. Won’t that mean the lower suspension wishbone angles up at the end 50mm at normal ride height, does that affect anything like bump steer or whatever?

What Ian said , probably gives me more room for the big gearbox in the tunnel  it’s not small

the Lca are still about 50mm down lower than the x member so got a lot to play with

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[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

cava454 wrote:

Bloody hell. That’s a BIG spacer. I wouldn’t go bigger then 25mm personally. Change the blower hat. Or Mill the top of the one you have.

milling the top is about 5mm off fuck all looked at that the hats are not cheap anymore as they have to come from the state

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

spacer kit from Castlemaine https://www.rodshop.com.au/commodore-k-frame-spacers-suit-lsa-conversions.html

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

Immortality wrote:

The later K frames (VN onwards I believe) have a little more room for things like headers but won’t solve your height issue.

IJ. wrote:

The output shaft of the Trans needs to match the input of the diff, putting spacers in drops the engine but not the Trans mount, this changes the angle, in a few of the AWD conversions I’ve done I’ve had slight mismatches that resulted in vibrations at certain speeds, not always just now and again… Just figured I’d put it out there.

It’s easy enough to change the pinion angle on a semi-trailing diff on a Commodore.

Yip I have the arms to adjust the pinion angle

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

so had a go at a temporary  spacers wanted to see if it worked first, so it does fit still sticks up 20mm but still needs to go back ,would still need to cut sump , I can see why others use a manual rack

20190616_162506 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

bottom x member sump

20190616_161704 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

a lot lower than last time

20190616_161840 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

header clearance  not much

20190616_162217 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

steering clearance not much

20190616_162448 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

sump with 10mm clearance of x member

20190616_152817 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

temporary spacers

20190616_161829 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

header clearance drivers

 

 

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

VRSenator065 wrote:

Judge1 Frazer wrote:

Cheers Guys but is there any issues using the spacers that you know of

Are they legal?

yes they are legal here in nz as engineer/certifier suggested them just got to be made right.

Immortality wrote:

Judge1 Frazer wrote:

Hey all I have done some home work and modifying the cross member is out of the question so now looking at spacers ( I know I said I wouldn’t but ah ) so can any tell me pros and cons if any Castlemaine have a kit that would fit it under the bonnet (Thoughts)

So a custom tubular K frame is not legal either then?

yes and no I would have to prove it was made right and be equivalent or better than factory

Immortality wrote:

I’d be using a later model K frame.

Talk to me what k frame would make this better but with or without spacers

Anonymous wrote:

Judge1 Frazer wrote:

Cheers Guys but is there any issues using the spacers that you know of

Will mess with the driveline angles, might get away with it or maybe needs correction, hard to tell each car is different.

I assume it is how you set it first as you would know Ian ,or am I wrong  spacers have been used for years with old 350 and 400 Chevy’s

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

Cheers Guys but is there any issues using the spacers that you know of

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

Anonymous wrote:

Looked into the Caddy lid?

trouble is they are not as good as the zl1 ones

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

Hey all I have done some home work and modifying the cross member is out of the question so now looking at spacers ( I know I said I wouldn’t but ah )  so can any tell me pros and cons if any Castlemaine have a kit that would fit it under the bonnet (Thoughts)

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

wow that’s a lot of work

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

Hey Bud TWR-92 wrote this up might help

how to change drum to disk brakes on a VL

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[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

That’s a different way of doing it , what size line did you end up using

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

A different set of eyes never hurt for ideas and this one paned out nice work Ian and nephew

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

That’s a lot of windows

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

VRSenator065 wrote:

I think the first time you dummy drop the engine in, is a significant, beer cracking, happy “moment” in a build!

Yip Gave me gooses bumps when it Slowey slid in

cava454 wrote:

Ve bracket and alternator. Factory Holden tensioner as the power steering is part of the rack.

Cheers Cava

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[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

cava454 wrote:

If you want it lower and under bonnet. Look into k frame spacers and the CTSV lid

Cheers Cava but not doing the spacers I have some ideas see if it works I know I wont get it fully under bonnet , what alternator bracket did you use and the pully in replacement of no p/steering

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[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

Hey all I know I said I was going to wait for workshop and house to be built but got bored so out came the old girl and slipped in the lsa so not mounts no box just sitting on the x member with a piece of wood needs to go down and back I can see why the drivers side headers would be a pain going to be interesting to build them

photo’s

20190602_113046 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

old girl

20190602_150524 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

Freedom

20190602_155030 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

20190602_155041 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

20190602_155431 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

going to see if I am allowed to notch the cross member will have to ask certifier ‘ low volume certification ‘

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