[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

Anonymous wrote:

The LCA mounts go down with the subframe, ditto on the rack mounts, all it really means is if you want the same static ride height you lose 50mm travel from the shocks. Holden screwed the pooch on bump steer anyway, eventually if you lower it too much you’ll drop the roll centres and it’ll handle like a pileOshit.. (#1 reason for the BMW build)

What Ian wrote on page seven on the bump steer and LCA

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

Shit even the exhaust half the car here would be illegal

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VRSenator065 wrote:

It does seem a lot. Just trying to imagine that, so it would basically make the bottom of the front K member that much lower assuming the body of the car is at the same height right? That would make it pretty bloody low, less than 100mm which is legal min-height here in Oz I am guessing?

 

Hey Gary the way I see it,  it would not change here the lower arms are still pointing down so all geometry stays the same I have coil overs in the front so ride height is sorted just some height adjustment I would lose   in nz it’s a 100mm to the chassis, they have done this for years with 350 Chevy’s

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one on the right looks nice

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

worked on the car over the long weekend labour day here nz  pulled the motor out put some 25mm spacers on the k frame removed the brakes, booster, firewall lining ,brake line, fuel lines just to have clean engine bay , fitted the left hand starter kit fits well, modified the bellhouse for starter and trimmed of the other side where the original starter sat, new pilot bearing in put flywheel and clutch on awesome no need for a spline tool gear box matted up and back in the bay looks better but may go the 48mm spacers I think would make a huge difference in motor height , also made the flat 10mm plates for the start on the engine mounts, cut the drivers side k frame mount off for the a/c got the a/c bracket but will have to modify that to make it work might have to tickle the frame rail a little bit

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

mate where do the other pedals sit that’s tight for room

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cava454 wrote:

I still can’t work out what the meaning for all this is? Can you enlighten me?

 

Hey Cava, I am just going about things a different way throwing things out there just to see if it makes a difference , I know I will need a bonnet scoop , bulge or something but I don’t want a scoop had all the plastic and fibreglass shit on the vk so my intent is to build a bugle(like the falcons BA) and at this stage the motor is too high as it needs to start from about 300 up the bonnet and smooth back down before the grille flutes at the back of the vb bonnet ,,, yes I can buy of the shelf kits to make this work but I have the skills to make it work my way, I hope this answers some ??????

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VRSenator065 wrote:

Judge1 Frazer wrote:

Just an idea if I could cut 20mm out of the height of x member where the sump sits reinforce it so it still looks factory then lower the rack plus 20mm spacers on the chassis.

IJ is probably better to answer this, but I would think if you lower the rack 20mm, you would need to also lower the ball joint mounts out at the wheel hubs to keep the steering geometry correct. Can’t see an engineer liking that though…

Hey Gary would be no different to putting spacers between chassis and x member and we went though that a page or two ago

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VRSenator065 wrote:

Actually thinking about it I welded and gusseted mine and the engineer had no issue with it. Man that starter would get hot down there! It’s busy enough on that side without it.

Yes you did but not the man part going between the chassis rails , with that modified one I’m not sure how the steering would work it’s moved back maybe 60mm surely it would throw the steering out

Just an idea if I could cut 20mm out of the height of x member where the sump sits reinforce it so it still looks factory then lower the rack plus 20mm spacers on the chassis ,, just an idea I have a spare x member so could have a play

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Anonymous wrote:

And yet a 30+ year old original is still fine to use

yes and I plan to put 7 time the power sitting on it from what the six cylinder was

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

Man the drama’s of building a car

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VRSenator065 wrote:

^I saw that today, is it legal? I sort of find it hard to believe an engineer would pass something structural like that without a lot of testing and evaluation?

Your right Gary I ask about cutting mine and he just said no not without a lot of paperwork and f^&king around  be all good for a race car

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

interesting cava but would not be legal here

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forgot to mention that I had to tap out 6 bolt holes “total” in the block 4 in the mounts and two for the bellhousing were slightly cross threaded  all perfect now  , got some 10mm plate for the start of the mounts going to cut the x member mounts off and move them back so I can run the air con pump , the motor is sitting back 30-40mm (I’m guessing here ) from where it would sit with of the shelf mounts be it TUFF or CRS , pros and con more room in one place less in others will just have to work around it less weight forward is a good thing , means I can bring radiator back towards motor , more room in front for aircon radiator and interchiller setups plus going to have radiator lower for a custom otr (air intake)  modifying the snout and throttle to turn more into centre, big plans

• This reply was modified 5 years, 1 month ago by  Judge1 Frazer. Reason: spelling

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VRSenator065 wrote:

Good to know it’s legal, nice and easy.

Yip here in nz not sure in oz just got to make sure the recesses are in the space so they are kind of locked in so mirror x member

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VRSenator065 wrote:

How nice does it look in there though!! Nice work on the sump. Do you know if an engineer will pass it with spacers under the K frame?

Hey Gary Yip looks awesome in the bay ,as for spacers the engine certifier suggested them to me

Anonymous wrote:

Good luck with keeping the sump flat when you weld it up… Gonna be a fun toy when it’s done

what you telling me I can not keep the race tape and carboard

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busy weekend trimmed the sump mated the gearbox to the motor and slipped it in ,gearbox is good where it is motor has a 3degree lean back but would be nice to lower motor down more I have the motor sitting back a lot also got my CRS starter conversion kit looks good will fit it when motor comes out and trim the bellhousing  going to see what a 25mm spacer is like under x member

Sump trimmed

20191013_162716 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

20191013_162726 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

motor mated to gearbox

20191013_164615 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

20191013_164636 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

motor and box in

20191013_212522 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

sits high

20191013_212541 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

20191013_212557 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

20191014_172019 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

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Dam that would put the shits up ya as Ian said just a rim and you and your mates are safe

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Hey all got some fuel rails this week aero flow really nicely made put them on but before that trim the aluminium from the back of the blower so  can get fittings in there later ,have also order the starter relocation kit should be here next week , A mate is coming up for Bathurst tomorrow so going to pull motor put gear box on and sort out were motor and box will sit

20191012_085028 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

20191012_171009 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

Looks good from drivers seat

20191012_171028 by Frazer Russell[/url], on Flickr

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was the diff oil one of you check list items lucky everything else didn’t got to plan first big burnout diff destroys itself

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