[ImmortalityParticipant 97 HSV Senator 185i 02 VX L67 Calais View build HERE Member since: August 31, 2015 Posts: 535]

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VRSenator065 wrote:

Immortality wrote:

Send my your email addy and I’ll give you a copy of the factory info for doing the subframe, it’s for the VT/VX but the principles are the same.

Any way to post that info up on the forum mate, I for one would love to check it out. After I first did my car I took it to a very old school race suspension set up guy to get a base line for the front & rears. Now you have me wondering if he did the rear alignment without me knowing and that’s why mine is even?

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BTW, those centre caps looks awesome Gary

I was really happy with how the design evolved, that was back in the SC days. Jake though organized the painting etc so deserves a lot of the credit, I reckon they turned out great. And remember they can be fully custom, whatever you want, I toyed with the idea of making a set of mine with HSV454 in them.

[ImmortalityParticipant 97 HSV Senator 185i 02 VX L67 Calais View build HERE Member since: August 31, 2015 Posts: 535]

To adjust the subframe you need to loosen of the main bolt that holds the subframe bush but you also need to loosen the 3 bolts that holds the subframe bush to the chassis (on each side) as this is where the movement occurs.  Don’t forget to loosen off the 4 bolts for the diff mount.

Send my your email addy and I’ll give you a copy of the factory info for doing the subframe, it’s for the VT/VX but the principles are the same.

BTW, those centre caps looks awesome Gary 

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[ImmortalityParticipant 97 HSV Senator 185i 02 VX L67 Calais View build HERE Member since: August 31, 2015 Posts: 535]

Have you had the rear subframe out?

Holden have a special tool to centre the whole subframe/diff to the chassis so maybe your’s needs a slight adjustment?

 

I’m also lead to believe that using the adjustable camber/toe bush kits can alter the wheel track as well so getting a wheel alignment done may help solve the problem.

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[ImmortalityParticipant 97 HSV Senator 185i 02 VX L67 Calais View build HERE Member since: August 31, 2015 Posts: 535]

Looking good 

What was the final size/offset on those rear rims?

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Progress (if only a little)….

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[ImmortalityParticipant 97 HSV Senator 185i 02 VX L67 Calais View build HERE Member since: August 31, 2015 Posts: 535]

Which fitting does that have on the end?

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Depends on the operator and simulating engine load/engine acceleration as it effects the timing curve.

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This was last night effort…..

 

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[ImmortalityParticipant 97 HSV Senator 185i 02 VX L67 Calais View build HERE Member since: August 31, 2015 Posts: 535]

I was considering those Aeroflow billet fuel rails.

There does seem to be plenty of meat in the rails, just depends on the size of the fittings going into it I guess (that’s why I was asking what most folks are using?).

It would seem (looking at those billet rails) that you would also need to modify the fuel lines/FPR to suit?

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I stripped the fuel rails and will take em to work tonight to clean/polish if/when time allows.

Does anybody know what size fittings to use to do a -8 cross over?  figure I can tap the ends of the fuel rails to suit what ever is required.

Thanks

[ImmortalityParticipant 97 HSV Senator 185i 02 VX L67 Calais View build HERE Member since: August 31, 2015 Posts: 535]

I have a set here in black, just haven’t got around to fitting em yet but I think they are about the best solution all round….

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All good, it’s bloody filthy……

I think that it was definitely function over form when these were designed.  From what I have seen these flow well enough unfortunately with this style of intake they do stand out like dogs bollocks.

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Yeah but they did the job and didn’t look to bad on the banana’s manifold as they were fairly much hidden under covers…..

Some time in the future I may upgrade to a short body injector, grab some billet fuel rails and tidy it all up but for now I’ll just clean up these rails and a bit of a polish should have it looking 100% better.

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[ImmortalityParticipant 97 HSV Senator 185i 02 VX L67 Calais View build HERE Member since: August 31, 2015 Posts: 535]

Got my manifold back today from the machinist

Went to go and get my 1000cfm throttle body only to find out my local supplier is out of stock and there is a 6-8 week wait for new stock  Waiting to hear back if we can get one in a little quicker.

Sometime this week at work I will machine up a couple of support bars for the fuel rails so that they can be fixed in place, once that is done I’ll have to dummy up for the TB height and then work out if I need a drop base filter or not.

Gave the Senator some love and cleaned up the intake faces on the heads etc, just need to run a tap through all the threads and it’ll be ready to have the manifold bolted down.

Picked up some new shiny bolts from my local engineering shop too 

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[ImmortalityParticipant 97 HSV Senator 185i 02 VX L67 Calais View build HERE Member since: August 31, 2015 Posts: 535]

I think the big point with that article is the fact that they opened up the top ring gap, I have no doubt that engine would most likely have failed spectacularly if they had left the standard top ring gap as the extra heat from the FI would have had the ring gap close up, grab the bore and rip the top off the piston.  Most guys throwing a turbo kit on a stock LS motor would never bother to do such a modification.

I believe there are also some differences between the LS truck motors and the more common 5.7 litre car engines which have known issues with the bore liners once a certain power level is reached.

The big point to note again is that engine longevity is greatly influenced by the quality of the tune

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[ImmortalityParticipant 97 HSV Senator 185i 02 VX L67 Calais View build HERE Member since: August 31, 2015 Posts: 535]

With the standard VS steering gear/suspension when at full lock the inside edge of the tyre is very close to the sway bar (if running decent size/width wheels), increasing the amount of steering lock could very well see the tyre foul on the sway bar unless you have modified this somehow?

[ImmortalityParticipant 97 HSV Senator 185i 02 VX L67 Calais View build HERE Member since: August 31, 2015 Posts: 535]

Must be one sad VN 

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Need to drive it under load varying engine speed.  Chuck a couple of bags of cement in the boot or anything else heavy  for that matter.

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Well the manifold is at Marsh Motorsport to have the injector boss’s drilled to suit, should have it back early next week hopefully.

Also have a black billet thermostat housing on its way.

Unfortunately the missus just had a puncture that has stuffed an almost brand new treat and it’s costing $265 to replace so that has eaten the HPC coatings budget

VRSenator065 wrote:

Vizard is like a the thinking mans Smoky Yunick

Yeah, fairly much.

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[ImmortalityParticipant 97 HSV Senator 185i 02 VX L67 Calais View build HERE Member since: August 31, 2015 Posts: 535]

Hang on, hasn’t he’s fitted a roller cam?  if so all he really needs to worry about is bedding in the rings

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