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The Springs/shocks and wheels should be doing the work of absorbing the humps and bumps of the road.  The mounting bushes are to isolate the suspension from the chassis to minimise NVH.

I think you are referring to that thread on the PCM hacking forum, if that is the case his argument about a car breaking welds is a dirt track car that gets totally thrashed across big ruts running very low tyre pressures.  Low tyre pressures will assist with increasing traction but aren’t going to help absorb big hits on ruts as the tyre will deform and allow the rim to take the hit.  I also wouldn’t be surprised if it’s turned the odd lap with a deflated tyre which would totally compound the issue.

If the suspension is set up correctly and it’s not bottoming out and hitting the bump stops continuously than it shouldn’t be busting welds.  Welds do break from flex (or rather the parent metal cracks around the weld), stop the flex and the welds will last.

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Was supposed to make the engine quieter/smoother etc.

The original LS engines in Commodores sounded pathetic.  Stock they still are nothing exciting at all really.  Not much point in owning a V8 if you can’t even hear it  :(

My local exhaust guy had a huge stack of factory VT exhaust systems stacked up in the corner as every man (and his dog) was in there getting custom systems made to improve the noise.

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VRSenator065 wrote:

^yea sounds nice, funny how they are OK at idle, but not at cruise. Someone somewhere wrote that people have changed the firing order, but man that’s got to be huge task wouldn’t it?

Not really.  Obviously there are limitations with the way the crank is made (and the various permutations of the big end throws) but change the cam lobes and the firing order on the dizzy.  To make a drastic change than the crank needs to be changed.

For example

In the above diagram you can see with the standard LS firing order the next cylinder to fire is always on the opposite bank  except the 8-4 where as with the Holden engine

You can see that 2 cylinders on the same back fire consecutively  on each back which is what give that very noticeable exhaust burble.  You can also see it is basically the same (they number the cylinders differently as the early Ford firing order which I believe Ford have gone back to on the new Coyote engine.

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So what was it?

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Nice TP manifold on top.

What are they intending on putting it in?

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Ahh.  Yes you would have to use the appropriate sender from Autometer.  As far as I’m aware all the gauges are internally the same, the only thing that changes is what is written on the gauge face.  Then Autometer have a sender to work with it.

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Something really weird going on there.  What does the oil pressure gauge do if you disconnect sensor wire and power it up?

Try connecting the oil pressure sensor to the fuel pressure gauge and see if that moves then.

Are these Autometer gauges?

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It could well be, the non return LS stuff I believe runs at  about 60psi /4 bar.

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vs manta 218 wrote:

I would of expected Bosch flow rates to be accurate as well but they are way off, I was extremely supprised at how low they actually flowed and don’t know how they can be advertised as 1000cc when they are not even 80% of that yeah I will keep searching, Thing is 1300cc injector dynamics cost more then 2 arms and a leg and I don’t know of any other 1300cc injectors that even exist and the bosch 1650cc ones are $210 each so $1680 a set of 8 witch is still pretty pricey especially when can get Bosch 2200cc ones for like $60-$80 each but don’t know what they will be like down low

What fuel pressure are you running those injectors at and is the FPR manifold referenced?

I’d be weary of cheap injectors on ebay, there are so many cheap chinese copies these days :(

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I would expect ID flow rates would be accurate as that is what they are known for.  Best bet would be to contact them and see what they say.

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Thought you were going with Injector Dynamics injectors?

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^^^  Agreed. a decent twin plate clutch would do the job.

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You must be looking to fit some big ass rims, doing tubs?

If you are going to all this trouble why not fit something like the tubular 4 link coil over setup from McDonald Bro’s ?

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How much narrower is it?

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Any pics of the diff?

 

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Why drum brakes on the rear?  That’s 1900’s tech…..

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cava454 wrote:

Immortality wrote:

Isn’t the 4L80e basically the electronic over-driven version of the T400?

yeah pretty much what I can tell so far. Wonder if it suffers the same issues with as the t700 and the 4l60e where they destroy 4th when it engages at WOT?????

I doubt it. As said elsewhere, the 400 was used in all the heavy stuff and should be tough as nails.  Standard sedan type vehicles got the 350 which is fairly good too but not enough for your blown donk.

Talk to HQ368 on the AV8 forum.  He knows his transmissions.

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Isn’t the 4L80e basically the electronic over-driven version of the T400?

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What I did is just use a spade terminal and push it into one of the empty fuse slots in the fuse panel under the dash.  I used an inline fuse.  The better option if there are any spare fuses in the panel would be to wire into the back of the panel and then put a fuse in it’s regular spot (but I was to lazy to do that).

For the circuit to back light the gauges I tapped into the wire at the ciggy lighter.

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