[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

I’ve gone from nothing to trying to get everything done in the space of a few days. I haven’t had time to comprehend what I’m spending hahaha.

whats your opinion on the gear from CAE? I like the fact that it’ll have pretty much everything I need to get the motor and box in and wired up, and it’s all designed to work together, but it’s a big chunk of cash…

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

cava454 wrote:

Told you it adds up. Allow 2-3k for misc bits and pieces. Must have engine brake. Trans brake would be nice also.

It would be nice but doesn’t fit into the budget at the moment.

On a side note, I’m not getting the Brembos any more as I can’t get the mounting brackets unless they’re custom made, plus I’ll have a prick of a time finding wheels to fit, and at the moment I’ll be running stockies, so I’ve $800 to spend on brakes, probably go for a VT setup

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

^^^^^^^ahahahahaa this guy!

So far I’m out $9k for the motor and brakes. If I go with the box and converter, k frame and rack and all the gear from CAE, I’m up to $19400, give or take a carton or two.

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

cava454 wrote:

Make sure the t400 has engine brake feature.

Yep it does. Here’s what it comes with:

TH400 Stage III Full Manual – Full Manual Valvebody (forward

shift pattern with engine braking), 34 Element Sprag and Drum,

Heavy Duty Clutches, Extra Clutch Plates, Heavy Duty Circlip,

Torrington Bearing Upgrades (low drag), Pump Modifications, HD

Rear Band, HD Intermediate Band, Polished Aluminium Pan,

Pressure Tested, Painted

Transbrake with engine braking included is an extra grand.

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

I need a cross member anyway so i may as well get one in the kit.

Spoke to Paul Rogers Performance Transmissions, he quoted $3750 for a TH400 rated up to 1000hp and $750-800 for a Dominator converter built to the specs of the cam I’ll eventually run. I dont know what cam I’ll end up with so not sure what to order just yet. Probably go with a 3000-3500 stall at this stage.

Also, not sure if the Brembo brakes will work, can’t get brackets for them plus I’ll have issues fitting wheels. Might end up selling them and going for a basic VT or VE set up.

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

Got a VR V8 K frame and VL manual rack with intermediate shaft for $575

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

VRSenator065 wrote:

I made 508rwhp with the Paccies, that’s gotta be north of 600 at the fly. They work. But the curve did start to nose off around 6k rpm which I reckon is the restriction of the smaller primaries.  

Thats pretty good on the 454 so it should be plenty for me for the time being.

So I spoke to CAE and have received their price list:

• Engine mounts – $250
• Gearbox x-member – $170
• Castle Headers Tri-Y 1 3/4 – $800
• Gearbox mount – $70
• Gearbox speed sensor (elec output to ECU & cable outlet to speedo) – $318
• Speedo cable – $70
• Starter motor – $409
• LHS starter relocation – $200
• Flex plate – $280
• ECU programming (ready to start, security removed, not locked) – $272
• Engine harness modified to suit (supplied new, I keep my existing one) – $1409
• Oil pressure 3 way T piece – $45
• Temp gauge adapter – $20
• Fuel pump – $300
• Fuel regulator/filter and fuel rail adapter – $259

Grand total of $5359 inc GST. They quoted $1000 for a radiator with twin thermos but I think I could use a standard radiator with thermos for a lot cheaper than that.

Pricey, but will all of that get me to a point where its all in and ready to run? Comments? Suggestions? The guy I spoke to said he’d give me a quote with everything he thinks I’ll need and I could pick and choose anything from the quote.

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

cava454 wrote:

Heron SSV wrote:

Sweet. My engineer also suggested swapping to a VR-VS tank, he said they bolt straight in and have a larger capacity.

Nice. Then a 450 walbro will slot straight in. Would you be interested in a modded ASR windage tray by any chance?

Maybe. Pros/cons? Price? I also need to get a different sump as well to fit the VK from what I’ve read. Do LS1 sumps with the front hump fit.?

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

Got the pedal assembly coming with the motor.

Spoke to Justin at Ultimate Conversions, he quoted $1300 to mod my harness so it’s ready to go, speed sensor is an extra $190. Also called CAE, they’re sending me a quote on everything I’ll need for the conversion (starter relocation, mounts, headers, wiring etc.), just waiting for it to come through

The old budget is starting to look shaky lol

On a side note, anyone know what else I’ll need to bolt the VE Brembo’s on? I need a new booster, can I use VT hubs?

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

Sweet. My engineer also suggested swapping to a VR-VS tank, he said they bolt straight in and have a larger capacity.

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

Thanks again Cav. Regarding the fuel system, is that all I’ll need? The Walbro in tank pump running to the regulator? Does that mean I don’t run a return line from the motor, just the line that comes with the kit straight to the rails?

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

I think they’re 1 3/4, then 2, then 2 1/2 outlet

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

CAE also do a fuel system upgrade to suit LS swaps:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BRAND-NEW-EFI-FUEL-SYSTEM-KIT-SUIT-LS1-LS2-LS3-VB-VC-VH-VK-COMMODORE-CONVERSION-/302096570735?hash=item46565bd96f:g:dLoAAOSw8w1X9Dx0

I’ve got no idea when it comes to the fuel system I’ll need 

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[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

Just looking at some conversion kits and have found the following:

• CRS starter relocation kit to suit a TH box – $1000
• Tuff Mounts for motor – $275
• Gearbox x-member with mount – around $350, give or take (can i use a standard one? There’s no difference whetherI’m using an LS or Holden motor is there?)
• Extractors – $850 and up

Total for the above is $2475. Full kit from CRS which includes starter relocation, engine mounts, gearbox -member and mount, and Pacemaker extractors is $2465. I’ll call CAE tomorrow and see what they’ve got to say.

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

I spoke to a workshop on the coast today who are putting an LS3 into a VK at the moment. They used a lot of stuff from CAE, said it fits great and is much cheaper than CRS. They also said CAE do standalone plug and play engine harnesses for about 700 bucks outright that are made to fit into your cars existing wiring. Not sure if i’ll need that as my motor comes with the engine harness so I thing i just need to get mine modified.

How would the tri-ys go with a decent sized cam? Or does it mainly depend on the size of the primaries and secondaries?

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

Next weakest link will be the tail shaft and/or diff. Hopefully that’s not too pricey.

Still undecided on what to use for the conversion. CRS full kit, just their LHS starter swap and get Tuff Mounts, Pacemaker, Castle Headers…. the list goes on.

Got a mate hunting for a VR-VS V8 K frame and VL manual rack.

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

doz10 wrote:

That’s not bad at all mate and at least that way engine wise you have pretty much everything you need, awesome price for the brakes too, just a bit of food for thought on your box though have you thought about a 4l80e it’s basically a t400 with overdrive, factory they’re electronic but they can be converted to full manualized and they can handle big power as well.

 

Thanks mate. I did think about the 4 speed but I want a totally bulletproof box that’ll handle some punishment and still be fine when I add a blower or turbo down the track without any changes to the box. It’ll be a weekend toy so I’m not overly concerned about an OD for highway duties.

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

Cheers Gary. I could of waited a bit and searched more, but I thought fk it just get it and stop thinking about it hahaha

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

Motor is sorted… Just bought an LS3, comes with engine harness, a/c, p/s, alt, belts, computer. The computer comes with a Walkinshaw W375 tune, not sure if that’ll be good or bad when it comes time to start it. Also bought a set of VE Brembos for 800, comes with 4 pot fronts and standard rears, discs, pads, lines. Same set up as a GXP so hopefully that’ll help with engineering.

Next up will be the box, 1000hp rated TH400 from Paul Rogers with lots of fancy things inside it haha. Didn’t end up going with the trans brake as it added 1k to the price.

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

cava454 wrote:

will be significantly cheaper. But it is a 2nd hand engine as apposed to new. However 39k is fuck all work. So long as it checks out I’d imagine it would be a goer.

Thanks Cav. Would I be ahead cash wise seeing as it has all the bolt ons, harness and ecu?

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