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April 22, 2015 at 7:43 am #5250
what sort of setups are people running ,i.e. lift pumps,what brand,model. where are you putting surge tanks,inline pumps what are you using,what size lines are you using,filters too.anything to do with this side of your setup.
April 22, 2015 at 8:39 am #5271What power and fuel?
April 22, 2015 at 11:55 am #5298pump 98,near bang on 400rwhp for me(n/a)
interested in what people are using & where there putting it
but what ever you got & your happy with it
i was going to use 040 bosch in tank to custom serge above diff with 044 hanging off that with std 5/16 lines to reg then 3/8 to rails, return to serge,with serge overflow to main tank.sounds easy a.
April 22, 2015 at 11:55 am #5299
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Posts: 5 777As above, totally depends on power and fuel. Built mine to supply constant 1,000hp of E85. Currently only making 650ish but wanted to do it once. I am running a Weldon DB2015 main fuel pump, duel Pierburg lift pumps, have a custom Bain Racing drop tank, with integrated internal 3L (nothing in boot) 5/8″ supply, 1/2″ return lines.
April 22, 2015 at 11:58 am #5300
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Posts: 5 777Not sure about a custom surge above the diff, I had a good look at that and couldn’t see a place to fit it and still work properly (IRS though). It would end up being long and flat which is sort of opposite what you want. My engineer wasn’t thrilled about the idea either but that may not be an issue. I reckon the single one piece custom fuel tank is the perfect solution but of course costs about $1500.
April 22, 2015 at 12:12 pm #5301pump 98,near bang on 400rwhp for me(n/a) interested in what people are using & where there putting it but what ever you got & your happy with it i was going to use 040 bosch in tank to custom serge above diff with 044 hanging off that with std 5/16 lines to reg then 3/8 to rails, return to serge,with serge overflow to main tank.sounds easy a.
A single Intake walbro will meet your needs.
However
If surge is the go. Stock in tank pump to surge. Single 044 to rails, factory Bosch reg. Return to surge. Surge overflow to main tank. All stock fuel lines. Done.
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April 22, 2015 at 1:59 pm #5306
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Posts: 5 777400rwhp, is about 530ish fwHP through a stalled auto That’s getting up there, personally I wouldn’t run a car making that without the peace of mind of a surge.
April 22, 2015 at 2:41 pm #5310Surge is only there to stop fuel surge.
Nothing power related
walbro do a 430lph version of the gss342
April 22, 2015 at 2:53 pm #5312
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Posts: 5 777But fuel starvation matters a crap load more if you are pulling 7k @ 530hp, and odds on you are going to be up in the region where the in tank swirl pot isn’t gonna cut the mustard. Always surprises me how someone may spend $20+k on an engine but won’t spend a few hundred more on a fuel system to match.
April 22, 2015 at 3:20 pm #5316Dont run the tank below 1/4 and you will be right. But it’s one of those things where it comes down to personal preference.
April 22, 2015 at 4:52 pm #5324
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Posts: 5 777Fair call, I just wouldn’t do it. Leaning it out is something you really dont want to be doing, but yep more than one way to skin a cat
April 22, 2015 at 5:46 pm #5331serge for sure,i like to turn it inside out occasionally ,cheap insurance
whats the diameter on the walbro
bosch 040 is 60mm
April 22, 2015 at 6:08 pm #5336who else,using what
April 22, 2015 at 7:36 pm #534660L Fuel Cell, Aeromotive Tsunami Lift pump to an 8L Surge Tank, twin Walbro 460’s with Aeromotive pump controllers -8 feed, -6 return Aeromotive boost referenced A1000 reg, both tanks filled with foam.
April 22, 2015 at 7:47 pm #5347Just get a aftermarket industries serge tank
iv got a sp1200 with 2 walbro 460 pumps and I carnt explane how good it is, puts all competition to shame
iv had several fuel systems, and all but 1 have all had one major thing in common
they are hideously loud
my current sp1200 fuel system is near silent, I know my fuel pumps have primed because I can hear it squishing through the regulator
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April 23, 2015 at 3:33 am #5363Stock vl external to surge to cheap $99us TREperformance 255l/hr external quiet even with the pump in the boot and no backseat lol.enough for 450rwhp and 10.80 1/4s
April 23, 2015 at 9:56 am #5392
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Posts: 5 777I dream of running a 10…. Nice work!
April 23, 2015 at 12:32 pm #5400Aftermarket industries all the way, hes the pro in australia with fuel systems hit him up on facebook he will look after you. He just designed my fuel system and ill be running 550hp ish
Walbro 460 intank, earls 175gph -8 filter, Aftermarket industries 1.7l Surge tank & Holley 1800 pump unit, 85lb Siemens injectors, upgraded rails, holley fuel reg.
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April 23, 2015 at 1:02 pm #5404
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Posts: 5 777^ beautiful workmanship, that pump will actually flow around 1,500hp, nothing like a bit of overkill though
April 23, 2015 at 1:45 pm #5406No it wont, thats what julian explained the other day, what the holleys advertise and what they actually can do in terms of big numbers like that are completely different, I wouldnt even trust that pump with 1000hp on an EFI blown setup. Carby is different, but when we spoke on the other day on the phone he was explaining fuel consumption, psi, fuel line sizes etc These pumps are rated to flow 200gph but its more like half of that for my kind of setup. He has all the data to back up his claims so i will back him 100%
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