VR Senator with LSx454

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

I reckon 738 hp

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

No power runs yet!! (today is the day)

Well, quite an eventful day Friday, first chance I have had to get on the forum.  But first things first IT LIVES!!!  By the end of Friday its all running, run in, and the tune fixed up.  Great oil pressure, compression etc, zero issues so far with my engine assembly effort which I am relieved about…

Tune wise he showed me the AFR maps before and after, and quite frankly, I can not believe the amount of money I have paid “tuners” and the absolute crap they have given me.  But anyhow, that was the whole idea behind going with Brenton and including the engine dyno time.

So today its power runs and see what this bad boy can do.  I went around Friday afternoon and listened to it start up, seriously it’s insane, even at idle it just sounds amazing, very very angry.

So here’s a couple of videos of startup, hopefully, tonight I can post up a decent video and will know what numbers its spitting out…

 

[Anonymous View build HERE Member since: January 1, 1970 Posts: 0]

Not nearly as lumpy as I was expecting…

[ImmortalityParticipant 97 HSV Senator 185i 02 VX L67 Calais View build HERE Member since: August 31, 2015 Posts: 535]

Tuning is an art, the stupid thing is the max power/torque part is probably one of the easier bits and what most people are interested in (for bragging rights).  The cold start, idle (from cold to hot) part throttle applications and all the transitions between those points is where the time is spent getting it right.

[sands vsParticipant vs commodore View build HERE Member since: March 1, 2015 Posts: 619]

VRSenator065 wrote:

… Tune wise he showed me the AFR maps before and after, and quite frankly, I can not believe the amount of money I have paid “tuners” and the absolute crap they have given me.

A tuner took out my engine. There are very few decent tuners despite reputations , thats why im in vic and my tuner is sydney based. Its extremely hard to find a decent tuner. This thing sounds really healthy and im glad someone is taking care of it. Getting the timing and AFR correct rebuild aside will make a huge difference to how it drives, power it makes, how much fuel it uses and engine bay temps

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[sands vsParticipant vs commodore View build HERE Member since: March 1, 2015 Posts: 619]

Immortality wrote:

Tuning is an art, the stupid thing is the max power/torque part is probably one of the easier bits and what most people are interested in (for bragging rights). The cold start, idle (from cold to hot) part throttle applications and all the transitions between those points is where the time is spent getting it right.

 

exactly my l67 has had huge hours in tuning to get all the stuff sorted you mention makes the biggest difference to the driving experience

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

I know some people are hanging to hear like I am, unfortunately, they have sheared the drive off the water pump on the dyno (not my engine).  And its taken a day and a half to get the parts to fix it.

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

Geez Gary you build a tough engine…. Who knew you’d create a monster that would blow up an engine dyno!!!!

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Lol, I am more peeved about the delay, but it will happen….

[Vehsv454Participant VictoriaVe hsv Senator View build HERE Member since: February 12, 2019 Posts: 15]

768hp

What oil pump are you using?

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Vehsv454 wrote:

768hp What oil pump are you using?

Actually just the standard LSx one.  I worked a lot with Adam at Precision on what to change etc, he thought (and so did Brenton) that was enough.  I did spend the time and align it properly with feeler gauges though.

[sands vsParticipant vs commodore View build HERE Member since: March 1, 2015 Posts: 619]

VRSenator065 wrote:

 

 

what sort if rpm will it pull?

[Vehsv454Participant VictoriaVe hsv Senator View build HERE Member since: February 12, 2019 Posts: 15]

The reason i asked is melling have a new pump out specifically for blocks with priority mains.

Its a high pressure low volume pump. Comparing it to the melling high volume high pressure pump that i was using and lots of LS nuts use, the new pump pumps 9LPM less .

Thats gotta help with windage, cooling etc

I think with the standard pump you would find that you’d have to much flow and it would be bleeding off at pump.

Im also using pushrod restiction for oil.

Im set for street and circuit

Melling pump 10294 15% less volume than stock

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

sands vs wrote:

VRSenator065 wrote:

what sort if rpm will it pull?

7k

Vehsv454 wrote:

The reason i asked is melling have a new pump out specifically for blocks with priority mains. Its a high pressure low volume pump. Comparing it to the melling high volume high pressure pump that i was using and lots of LS nuts use, the new pump pumps 9LPM less . Thats gotta help with windage, cooling etc I think with the standard pump you would find that you’d have to much flow and it would be bleeding off at pump. Im also using pushrod restiction for oil. Im set for street and circuit Melling pump 10294 15% less volume than stock

Understand, sounds like a nice piece of kit.  Mine is a streeter, so not that fussed about ringing out the last hp.

It just made 680 at 5,500 rpm, but just blown an injector o ring, getting there though.

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[cava454Moderator 93 VR BT1 View build HERE Member since: February 20, 2015 Posts: 2 390]

Looks promising. Is that just basic power runs or is he chasing it?

[Vehsv454Participant VictoriaVe hsv Senator View build HERE Member since: February 12, 2019 Posts: 15]

Should have plenty more left in it . With that cam it should start flat lining around 7000rpm

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

mmmm my 727 is looking good ,so rough 60hp up from last old motor at this stage

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

750HP, pretty much on the dot :   Maxing out the intake, makes a shit ton of torque.  Sounds absolutely incredible in person, literally your rib cage vibrates.  Easy has 800+ in it if I wanted to cut a hole in the bonnet and go a big intake, but that not what I want, or what the cars about. Over the moon, so happy, for me the perfect streeter engine.

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

Dam congrats Gary well put together sounds insane , is that tuned on your ecu or do you have to dyno it once in the car

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