VR Senator with LSx454

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

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From memory about 3500 rpm.

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Went around last night and saw Stephen and took the car for a nice little cruise with him.  Actually gave him a bit of a drive, nice to see the smile on his dial.  Cars running beautiful.  Its down to 478rwhp on pump 98, but the idle, and off throttle response is awesome.  Raining here today so getting it flat bedded home, if the weather clears might be in for some daily duties I reckon.  Then to find that quiet private piece of bitumen…

[sands vsParticipant vs commodore View build HERE Member since: March 1, 2015 Posts: 619]

Down to 356kw thats epic? Was it making more before.

 

Id assume the tune will need a touch up with the new intake when you finish it

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[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Hi mate, best its made was 508rwhp, that was back on E85, but to be truthful I don’t fully trust the tuner who did that.  The print out he gave me seemed a bit dodgy, and I know its pretty easy to configure a “happy dyno”.  Stephen Bell on the other hand I would trust with my life.  Consensus seems to be you pick up around 10-20HP with E85 as you can run more timing, but I am not sure its that bigger gain with NA.  As it is Stephen on 98 has made more than Willall did on E85, and ts like chalk and cheese how driveable the car is not compared to then.

I think as it is now making 478hp/356kw aw, translates to around 600hp/447kw fly, which sounds about right for a crate stock LSx454.  In this day and age that’s not that big, but I know I keep banging on about it but its the big flat torque curve that I love.  There is plenty of scope to waken it up when the time comes, compression, heads and cam….

I got my print head back off the 3d printer yesterday, so hopefully on the week end i can get stuck back into the CAI system.  And yes then it will need a tweak, Stephen and I were chatting about it, that will need to be done on the open road to get the ram air effect happening so he can compensate for it.

Had a minor issue last night, was putting it int he shed after my wife bless her heart washed it for me, and it stalled.  Then no fuel pumps.  I just left it alone and went inside.  But at 4am this morning woke up and it was shitting me so went out in my dressing gown and played around and it was just a blown fuse.  Didn’t actually start it though, not sure the neighbors would have been too happy about that at 4am

Also seems the fan isn’t turning on at the right temp.  Not sure how the guy that did the loom has it set up, I think I might just go a manual switch, not sure.

[Anonymous View build HERE Member since: January 1, 1970 Posts: 0]

I run the Davies Craig Digital Fan controllers they’re brilliant and never had an issue unlike a LOT of the other brands I’ve tried!

[cava454Moderator 93 VR BT1 View build HERE Member since: February 20, 2015 Posts: 2 390]

I’ll second that. Esp if you have an elec water pump too.

[vs manta 218Participant Vs hsv manta View build HERE Member since: March 2, 2015 Posts: 796]

Your running a LS pcm so why would you use a Davis craig controller for thermos ?

 

Just set it in the tuning program to where you want it to cut on and off

 

these simple things is why I brought Efi live my self, perfect example the other week my Monaro wouldn’t start properly and I knew my key was dodgie as

 

turned off the vats for a try in a matter of minutes and bam car was fine, got myself a new key then turned vats back on and was all sweet, also just after that when I swapped my 4:11 from manta into Monaro just a minute later and the speedo was fixed, both them problems at a mechanic / auto sparky would of cost me more then it was to buy efi live

 

fuel pumps can draw a shit load of amps so wouldn’t be suppressed if it blow, probley a good sign the system works, it’s been 3 years now hasn’t it ? Just keep a spare in the car

 

I had a 100 amp in line main fuse and twice it blow and both times while leppy was there tuning it with me, but the odd thing was car would be running then shut it down and go to start again and nothing, it blow while car was turned off for 5 minutes, never found out why but I changed the holder for it

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Thanks guys, last night I just gumby wired a switch across the relay, that will do for now until I will sort something better.

Pete I would love to  get into tuning, but the Kombi has sort of caught my interest now and its a bloody steep learning curve with that and tbh my brain wouldn’t cope with learning something else!!  I just wish I had someone closer to where I am that had a half a clue about tuning, Stephen is really excellent but its pretty much a flat bed to him every time I want something done, whereas if i could get someone to just drop by at my place like you seem to have with Leppy that would be awesome.  One things for sure the Kombi sure as hell is going to have minimal modifications from stock, and stuff all electronics!!

Yea made up a nice tool roll a while back that I keep in the boot, and in it i have a heap of spare fuses etc.  And yep its been a while now, touch wood its been mainly niggly little things, no biggies.  I reckon once i get the Kombi done might be time to go a bit spastic on some more power, might even pull it out and fully build it, but thats a while off yet.

[cava454Moderator 93 VR BT1 View build HERE Member since: February 20, 2015 Posts: 2 390]

Remote tuning

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

cava454 wrote:

Remote tuning

You mean live remote, or mail order?

 

[cava454Moderator 93 VR BT1 View build HERE Member since: February 20, 2015 Posts: 2 390]

Live.

Simple stuff like setting fan temps etc. can be done without logs etc.

bits and pieces like when you put intake on, you could log yourself driving around. Send to tuner and then he could tweak it and keep doing it until it’s 100%

I believe you would need to purchase an autocal.

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Yea right, had no idea that’s possible.  So in theory I could do that and say email it to Pete and he could tweak the fan settings?

[Anonymous View build HERE Member since: January 1, 1970 Posts: 0]

Hardware to do it is a little exe and once it’s linked to that Tuner it’s a PITA to unlink it but for that sort of thing it’s going to be way cheaper than flat bedding it there and back.

 

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

VRSenator065 wrote:

Yea right, had no idea that’s possible. So in theory I could do that and say email it to Pete and he could tweak the fan settings?

Thats the same way OzTrack do their tuning. You could do something similar with yours, as long as he knows how to.

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Thanks for the info guys.

[ImmortalityParticipant 97 HSV Senator 185i 02 VX L67 Calais View build HERE Member since: August 31, 2015 Posts: 535]

Considering what has been spent on tuning I wouldn’t be surprised if the tuner did it for free, it’s easy enough once it’s wired in.

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Went for a good hour long cruise this morning, little lean out issue at constant speed is gone, also with fan on temp is rock steady and cool, so maybe the fans been a bit iffy for a while.  Also noisy fuel pump issue after long cruising also gone, so one happy camper.  Time to just enjoy for a while.

[cava454Moderator 93 VR BT1 View build HERE Member since: February 20, 2015 Posts: 2 390]

Time to race

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

cava454 wrote:

Time to race

yep

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Well  my son was over last night and decided to try and get this old luddite into the 21st century so he has set me up an Instagram account.  He reckons now its built and I am driving it Instagram is better, tbh I have never used it before but going to give it a go.  If anyone is interested just look for hsv_454

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