VR Senator with LSx454

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Yea Unifilter made me custom filters before, they are what I used for engineering.  I think I can come up with something.  Realistically this car will be lucky to do a couple of thousand kms a year, and my mate runs Bureau Veritas oil analysis and we monitor it pretty closely and so far there hasn’t been an issue.  My preference is for filtration too, but will see how it all pans out.  Life is compromise.

[ImmortalityParticipant 97 HSV Senator 185i 02 VX L67 Calais View build HERE Member since: August 31, 2015 Posts: 535]

All the aftermarket OTR CAI have the filter element in front of the radiator like this

 

The best and easiest way is probably for you to do something similar between the grill before it turns up to the bonnet.

 

[doz10Participant Qld93 VR SS View build HERE Member since: February 9, 2016 Posts: 125]

Even a foam type panel filter or a sock/material thin filter made into a panel on the intake at the front just to catch the bigger debris and bugs and stuff would be better than nothing at all, and given that you only drive it occasionally you could have a spare set of filters there ready to swap out and it would be pretty easy to maintain,

It’s looking pretty bloody good though and I’d love to see something like this setup built to suit single or dual plane manifold setups for carb or injection it would look a lot better than the old airdam tray setups that’s for sure

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Now not complaining at all, coz I have sort of chosen to build this car in the public eye but sometimes I think you guys have to remember I am just some random guy in a shed, with no formal training, there’s a limit to my skills.  I think I might split it into two projects, one is to get cold air into it.  Then after that I will work on a way to filter the air to it.  Every day now I walk out and I cant drive it because its in pieces it pisses me off, as it is there’s still a lot of work to move this all across to the real bonnet just to finish off the cai.

[WraithParticipant View build HERE Member since: March 2, 2015 Posts: 50]

Pft limit to your skills my ass. I bet you when you first started you never dreamed you would accomplish so much and now look at it. You have an amazing knack for coming up with solutions for problems some skilled people would struggle with.

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Thank you, appreciate the kind words.  I just have this fear/hate of cars that end up in pieces in a shed.  I want to try and make changes, finish that, then enjoy it.   This could get out of hand time wise if i let it.

[doz10Participant Qld93 VR SS View build HERE Member since: February 9, 2016 Posts: 125]

I understand what you mean by not wanting it to end up just sitting there and being a shed ornament, but looking at how far you’ve come and what you’ve accomplished so far I don’t think that would happen and as far as your skills go I don’t know many people that can do half the things you’ve managed to carry out by yourself let alone with help, some of the engineering alone in this car blows me away, having said that sometimes it’s better to tackle a job like this cai in parts so it doesn’t get overwhelming

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Thanks very much, its always nice to get feed back like that    I was  actually was just on the Ryco site, and looks like there’s quite a bit of choice in rectangular panel filters size wise.  I may be able to put one horizontally at the top of the HSV “grill” but it does mean that I will have to come up with some way of sealing the bonnet to the top of the grill when it closes. Its also a very weird ass shape in there so I will have to come up with some funky 3D mount kinda deal.  I reckon I might finish off from the bonnet back first, at least that way its a driver again and being fed cool air, then continue work on the filter.  I do agree its the one thing that really does need to be addressed.  I mean if i ever say wanted to drive it across to Summernats or something it really needs to have a filter.  The whole idea is it is supposed to be a real street driver.

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[Anonymous View build HERE Member since: January 1, 1970 Posts: 0]

I’d integrate a small pair into the Nostrils..

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

If you mean at the very front of the bonnet, I don’t think it would work IJ, whats not clear from the photos is the slope and curve that’s in there.  From the back of the front bulkhead to the air boxes might, maybe in the centre section like here.  What do yo think, would maybe be simple to remove if i were dragging it or whatever too???

[Anonymous View build HERE Member since: January 1, 1970 Posts: 0]

Sit them in on a 45 degree angle you’ll get a much larger panel in the same area.

[doz10Participant Qld93 VR SS View build HERE Member since: February 9, 2016 Posts: 125]

As ij said angle them for more surface area, you could even set the filters on an angle attached  to under the bonnet where it splits from the plenums, it would probably make it easier to seal too

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Anonymous wrote:

Sit them in on a 45 degree angle you’ll get a much larger panel in the same area.

Great tip mate, thanks for that, hadn’t thought of that at all

[sands vsParticipant vs commodore View build HERE Member since: March 1, 2015 Posts: 619]

Could you use a urethane  instead of screws to make it look neater?

 

 

Love the cad work and design ..

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

When I get the oem style flanged head black screws it will look much nicer. It is a car, and it is tucked up under the bonnet

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[vs manta 218Participant Vs hsv manta View build HERE Member since: March 2, 2015 Posts: 796]

Use nut serts Gary

 

screws straight though sheet metal suck ass

 

exspecially on you air in take where if one comes loose it’s goin into a trumpet

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Yea agreed Pete.  Blew my LC gtr up pulling 6,000rpm with an air cleaner bolt coming loose and sucked through the engine. Expensive lesson…

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Two steps forward, one step back!!  Really happy with how its coming along, realize it may not look like much is happening.  Finished the single piece transition from the back of the bonnet bulk head to forward of the plenums.  This then allowed me through the cut up bonnet to get all the angles and dimensions right.  Takes a long time, this is the single biggest single part I have ever printed, it took 36 hours to print!!  So have finished the design.

Also printed off the modified shape “nostril” had to design and incorporate some funky fill in sections to match the pressings of the bonnet, not sure you will pick that up.  But would have pissed me off if I had left it.  At this stage the bonnet is pretty hacked up so just doing enough to be able to transfer it to mine.

Also wasn’t happy with the shape of the front of the plenums how I had it go rectangular, so have done another design, that’s on the printer now.  The idea is to just complete one side, then move onto my actual bonnet.

So started on the CAD design of the final part, should be nice.  This whole job reminds me of the rear wheels.  tbh unless I could do the CAD work myself after hours for nothing it just wouldn’t be worth it.  I reckon there’s 80 hours CAD time in it so far.  But its a fun project.  few pics for posterity;

[WraithParticipant View build HERE Member since: March 2, 2015 Posts: 50]

Just wondering. Could you angle the transition back and make that where the filters go?

[ImmortalityParticipant 97 HSV Senator 185i 02 VX L67 Calais View build HERE Member since: August 31, 2015 Posts: 535]

You may need to incorporate some sort of flexible joint to allow for engine movement when it’s running.

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