VB LSA Commodore build

[Anonymous View build HERE Member since: January 1, 1970 Posts: 0]

Looking Good Frazer, how long till the first start?

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

Anonymous wrote:

Looking Good Frazer, how long till the first start?

a few years away have a lot of other stuff I have to do first, work and build new house so it’ll sit like this for a while

[Anonymous View build HERE Member since: January 1, 1970 Posts: 0]

Bugger…

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

bolted blower and accessory back on the motor and put the bonnet back ,,gave it a dust

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[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

<del></del>Looks nice!!

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

well got the struts back and the brakes dam they are big ,have put it together looks awesome , if someone has an old girl that is lowered would like to see some photo’s of the lower control arms to see if there is much difference to what I have with the spacers ,, also put the power steering rack in and the manual to see the difference heaps of room for the manual rack

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[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Looking great dude, same brakes as mine, they work great.  Does lowering the K frame like that mean you have to do anything funky with the springs and shocks, or does it all just bolt up like normal?

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

It looks like there’s lots of space now, wait till you start putting the headers in haha

Making some great progress, shame that it’ll stop while family life takes over for a bit. Thats cars though.

How much clearance do you have from the bottom of the sump to the ground? Looking pretty low, hopefully it isnt too exposed

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

VRSenator065 wrote:

Looking great dude, same brakes as mine, they work great. Does lowering the K frame like that mean you have to do anything funky with the springs and shocks, or does it all just bolt up like normal?

Hey Gary no nothing funky just bolts in as the right height is adjusted from the strut not the spring I think you have the same set up

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

Heron SSV wrote:

It looks like there’s lots of space now, wait till you start putting the headers in haha Making some great progress, shame that it’ll stop while family life takes over for a bit. Thats cars though. How much clearance do you have from the bottom of the sump to the ground? Looking pretty low, hopefully it isnt too exposed

Hey Heron sump dose look close but as I took the photo’s the rear was still on the position jacks sump still 100mmm of the ground ,will be putting a bash guard under there as well ,,,crank pulley hangs down aswell

Yip Family stuff yes but I get my 100sqm workshop in the process

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[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Judge1 Frazer wrote:

Hey Gary no nothing funky just bolts in as the right height is adjusted from the strut not the spring I think you have the same set up

Cool, I guess as long as its all 100mm off the ground who cares.  As you know I am a fan of no bonnet mods, will be a super sleeper.

[vinParticipant saSL/LEE View build HERE Member since: June 5, 2019 Posts: 66]

Nice original work Frazer, especially when done by yourself, good to see another way of doing the conversion. At first your big spacer idea seemed a bit radical, then I realised you’re not actually lowering the factory krame/suspension, your actually lifting the body of the standard suspension specs, ground clearance stays the same at the front, well thought of and use of coilovers.  I suspect you have to extend the height of the stabilizer bar link rods and extend the intermediate shaft length now ???  Also is that the 14” standard vh wheel trims ?? how did you fit them over the wilwood brakes or were you just dummy up the wheels for height without brakes installed I just managed to fit 15” steel rims over the standard VT disks (298mm) and callipers. You used a alloy calliper bracket to retro fit the wilwoods, the same bracket setup to put the larger 330mm hsv callipers on but they need 16” minimum rim.

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[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

Hey vin thanks for the comments the sway bar link I will make a new bracket from the chassis

I can get a steering shaft for rod shop but I need to sort out what rack I am going to use

the wheels are standard 14″ steel over the adapter hub with no brakes the brakes are the same size as the wheel

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

Hey Gary can you clean up last post from vin please

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Judge1 Frazer wrote:

Hey Gary can you clean up last post from vin please

Done!!

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

VRSenator065 wrote:

Judge1 Frazer wrote:

Hey Gary can you clean up last post from vin please

Done

Thanks Gary

[Judge1 FrazerParticipant new zealand1983 VB LSA MG9 6060 6 speed View build HERE Member since: February 5, 2016 Posts: 775]

Hey all got all the suspension in over the weekend looks really nice needs to go up in the rear about 10mm as do not wont to drop the front any more but have no more thread on the spring platform

can some one that has a vb-vp and lowered take some photo’s of the front lower arms from the front and from the back looking at the steering tie rods just want to compare

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[Anonymous View build HERE Member since: January 1, 1970 Posts: 0]

Be an idea to graph out the roll centres Frazer, not looking good from the pics..

[cava454Moderator 93 VR BT1 View build HERE Member since: February 20, 2015 Posts: 2 390]

Anonymous wrote:

Be an idea to graph out the roll centres Frazer, not looking good from the pics..

Explain? Seems low. How’s the header clearance?

[Anonymous View build HERE Member since: January 1, 1970 Posts: 0]

It’s the angles from the LCA pivots intersecting the tyre contact patch and the strut tops, it gives you a point in space that the car will roll on from side to side.

This has a huge effect on the handling, looking at Frazer’s setup my guess is they’re way too high, there’s also the relationship between the front and rear roll centres, the roll axis to consider…

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