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[exec24Participant 2004 VY S2 Berlina 1996 VS 5L Sedan View build HERE Member since: April 8, 2015 Posts: 435]

this is what is done to mine, thought it cost me $2500 turns out it was $3500 without stall

• This reply was modified 8 years, 7 months ago by  exec24.

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

vs manta 218 wrote:

Does a 4L80e fit in the trans tunnel of a second gen commodore ??

Go on Pete, you know you want too….  manualised, pro ratchet type shifter, stealth mount, nice stall, 4 gears of awesomeness….

[NickVRParticipant AdelaideVR V8 Exec, VR SS, VF Redline Reserve View build HERE Member since: March 2, 2015 Posts: 264]

[TUFFVQ] wrote:

NickVR – My opinion only, but there’s next to no point getting a 2300rpm stall. That is only a few hundred RPM higher than stock. A properly built higher RPM stall is fine for the street. Even a stock 5L will benefit greatly from a 3000-3500rpm stall. Get a lock up item and have the best of both worlds. My 4k convertor flashes to 4200rpm on full load, but with lock-up its perfectly streetable. A 4spd with overdrive and lockup T/C is gives the opportunity to run short gears and a decent stall while maintaining freeway driveability. I know I go on about it a lot but 4.11s and 4ooorpm convertor on a T700 spins at under 2500rpm on the freeway. Food for thought.

Just going on what a friend of mine is suggesting. He knows his stuff so I trust his judgement, but I will still get the recommendation from the trans place too. They do this everyday and I a sure they have had nearly every combo possible to build. I don’t want anything too wild, just a cruiser that is enjoyable to drive.

VRSenator065 wrote:

4L80e is a great box from what I have seen/read, basically 400 with o/drive. Its the same old story though, its finding someone in Aus that actually knows how to build one, and they are physically very big and heavy. I agree with Nick though, for his application, a nicely built 4l60/65 would be perfect for him. No modifications at all, plenty strong enough, overdrive, whats not to like in a cruiser.

Strong enough to not break again but nothing overboard. I don’t mind the modification side of it because the stronger the better. But this is no torque monster like your 454, so building it to that standard would be money wasted.

exec24 wrote:

NickVR wrote:

If it was huge HP then no question. Mine is only a stocky with a bit of work nothing special. I’ll talk to the trans shop soonish and see how we go. I will let you know the direction I end up taking though. Watch this space……… and this one too.

pretty much what I was looking for mine, I only originally wanted a 2500rpm stall, ended up going a 3000 rpm 10 inch lock up stall As for the trans cooler I’ve gone for the biggest one b&m make (made by LONG- which from what I found is part of Dana) Long is used from factory on some VS Towpacks (which was what was on my VS to start with) mounted pretty much in the centre of the radiator

Was the stall choice recommended by the place that built it or something you decided on? I don’t want to choose something that will make the thing a pig to drive but just liven it up and work well with the 3:73 gears.

exec24 wrote:

this is what is done to mine, thought it cost me $2500 turns out it was $3500 without stall

This means my budgeting was about right. But we will see how it all goes I guess. Did you use speedflow fittings from your trans to the cooler or standard hard lines and push on hose. Not sure what way I will go but speedflow would be a neater fit I think.

[exec24Participant 2004 VY S2 Berlina 1996 VS 5L Sedan View build HERE Member since: April 8, 2015 Posts: 435]

Was the stall choice recommended by the place that built it or something you decided on? I don’t want to choose something that will make the thing a pig to drive but just liven it up and work well with the 3:73 gears.

stall was recommended by the place that built it, i went in there wanting a 2200-2500 max, as the car is only ever used on the street, told me to go a 3000 10″ as they apparently stall up quicker than a larger 2500rpm

i was originally going for a 2500 as crane cams suggest (minimum that size) for my cam

This means my budgeting was about right. But we will see how it all goes I guess. Did you use speedflow fittings from your trans to the cooler or standard hard lines and push on hose. Not sure what way I will go but speedflow would be a neater fit I think.

i did Purchase Aeroflow fittings, as i couldnt get hardlines at the time. i had already fitted when i did find harlines, so i went with the aeroflow fitting first

one of the Aeroflow fitting hit the trans tunnel, while removing one of them ready to fit the hardline i snapped the fitting clean off in the transmission casing, then snapped a ezyout in that trying to get it out, gave up that night dropped it off to the same transmission place the next morning, who managed to get all the bits out the cleaned it out.

i had actually had the hardlines when i pulled the old 5.0lt out the car, when we dropped that into my mates car we couldn’t get them so we used my set that i had for my VS, which was still far away from getting the engine (this was a year earlier) so thought i would find a set, most wreckers cut them

when i started getting close to putting my engine in and i hadn’t found any VS ones, 1997 and earlier VS V8’s were Different thread, VT 5.0lts are run on the other side of the sump, i managed to find a set of those so i grabbed them from 4 blok, a day later on gumtree some was striping a 1998 VS v8 Statesman locally, so gave him a call and got those too, kept the VT ones as spares for now.

my transmission lines just have push on hose to the cooler, the cooler has a female 1/2 thread, on both the inlets and outlet and i just bought a couple of 3/8 barbs to suit, top one is straight, and the other has a 1/2 nipple to -8AN then  from that to a 45 degree 3/8 swivel barb fitting,

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/262440006487?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1586.l2649

 

 

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[ImmortalityParticipant 97 HSV Senator 185i 02 VX L67 Calais View build HERE Member since: August 31, 2015 Posts: 535]

I’m told from VT onwards the 2 piece transmission lines are a larger diameter that the earlier VR/VS single case transmissions and this helps with them running cooler.

[exec24Participant 2004 VY S2 Berlina 1996 VS 5L Sedan View build HERE Member since: April 8, 2015 Posts: 435]

Immortality wrote:

I’m told from VT onwards the 2 piece transmission lines are a larger diameter that the earlier VR/VS single case transmissions and this helps with them running cooler.

sounds about right, thats what i was told in regards to the line size, which is why i struggled to find a set

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