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    You have me a little nervous, part of having the manualised glide fitted is of course changing mine to think its a manual (well at least that’s what I thought was needed), hopefully that’s all easy and straight forward…

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    You have me a little nervous, part of having the manualised glide fitted is of course changing mine to think its a manual (well at least that’s what I thought was needed), hopefully that’s all easy and straight forward…

    Your car should be an LS1B Gary, I don’t mean this in a bad way but that PCM is a bit like a commodore amiga compared to a modern PC when you compare it to an E38.. :XD:

    I can’t see them having any trouble at all, in hindsight I should have used one for the Lexcen but I had a spare E38 here in a box…

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    Yea, I really no virtually nothing about the ECUs. I was told at the time the VY ecu would give me everything I needed. Is the E38 from the VE?

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    Great to have you part of the Commodores Plus brains trust Ben

    glad I can contribute to the other brains on here. A forum like this with great tech info and builds is a rare find these days.

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    Yea, I really no virtually nothing about the ECUs. I was told at the time the VY ecu would give me everything I needed. Is the E38 from the VE?

    Last of the VZ’s and VE’s Gary.

    I’d have been screwed without Forums and the awesome guys I’ve met on them!

    I can make/build anything but electronics are a bit out of my comfort zone, I’ve learnt enough to get myself totally in the shit at times and that’s where the experts come in!

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    glad I can contribute to the other brains on here. A forum like this with great tech info and builds is a rare find these days.

    Thats exactly what we wanted to create, great to have you aboard.

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    You have me a little nervous, part of having the manualised glide fitted is of course changing mine to think its a manual (well at least that’s what I thought was needed), hopefully that’s all easy and straight forward…

    I don’t recall your exact setup but it should just work, the LS1B is a pretty mature platform and popular for conversions even older LT1 have been retrofitted with them. To run a Glide, you would use a manual tune you may need to do some trickery if you make more than 500rwhp in terms of tune scaling in order to have a 100% driveable stock behaving car but it’s been done for sure. You are lucky in that you don’t need to deal with the electronic throttle which isn’t too bad once you know how it works. For your VR you could have retrofitted the stock delco but the advantage with the LS1B is that a lot more people can access the computer and you can run LS1 coilpacks easily without aftermarket modules.

    If you have any issues post up in your thread or send me a PM and ill see what I can do to help.

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    You have me a little nervous, part of having the manualised glide fitted is of course changing mine to think its a manual (well at least that’s what I thought was needed), hopefully that’s all easy and straight forward…

    I don’t recall your exact setup but it should just work, the LS1B is a pretty mature platform and popular for conversions even older LT1 have been retrofitted with them. To run a Glide, you would use a manual tune you may need to do some trickery if you make more than 500rwhp in terms of tune scaling in order to have a 100% driveable stock behaving car but it’s been done for sure. You are lucky in that you don’t need to deal with the electronic throttle which isn’t too bad once you know how it works. For your VR you could have retrofitted the stock delco but the advantage with the LS1B is that a lot more people can access the computer and you can run LS1 coilpacks easily without aftermarket modules. If you have any issues post up in your thread or send me a PM and ill see what I can do to help.

     

    Cheers for that, very much appreciated.  Might just print that out and pass it onto my tuner.  For the record I am running an ECU out of a VY Statesman (I think that’s WK), was an auto LS.  Currently makes (if I can believe the last tuner which is arguable) 508 rwhp.  And yes that was exactly what I was told, i.e. that that ECU was the easiest and simplest to set up with mine and would pretty much do what I wanted. Again thanks, sorry for the thread hijack IJ!!

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    It’s not a hijack it’s on topic Gary!

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    Cheers buddy, its really the only area of my build I haven’t really been happy with.  So far I am on my third tuner before I found someone I can trust.  Trouble is when the car is in their workshop and they are dealing with something that you have little knowledge of, it is sort of out of your control and you are at their mercy.  I understand the basic old school philosophy of tuning, but modern ECU control takes it to next level (or more).  Its way more than simply looking at AFR’s, and getting the timing right.  And actually tuning an large capacity ITB NA set up like mine seems to frighten some people, nowadays its more likely to be turbo or blower when people chase power.  All good, great to have some knowledgeable people to kick ideas around with.

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    I like to think of my threads as an extension of the Shed, always good to bench race/build and kick ideas around, it means I’m constantly learning..

    I spent a long time using MoTeC gear and while it may seem intimidating at first it’s liberating in the way that you can set it up to do what you want, when I started down the GM path I found it difficult to come to terms with as you need to do it all their way..

    It’s something that unless you’re doing it daily it’s very easy to forget and lose track of but the basics remain the same it’s just working out the syntax to make it happen..

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    Cheers buddy, its really the only area of my build I haven’t really been happy with. So far I am on my third tuner before I found someone I can trust. Trouble is when the car is in their workshop and they are dealing with something that you have little knowledge of, it is sort of out of your control and you are at their mercy. I understand the basic old school philosophy of tuning, but modern ECU control takes it to next level (or more). Its way more than simply looking at AFR’s, and getting the timing right. And actually tuning an large capacity ITB NA set up like mine seems to frighten some people, nowadays its more likely to be turbo or blower when people chase power. All good, great to have some knowledgeable people to kick ideas around with.

    with ITB, depending on your setup you may need to run different fueling strategy as map pressure goes straight atmospheric when the throttle opens so you don’t get enough resolution. All can be done on the LS1 ecu with the right tools

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    Today End!

    BIG BLACK FLAPS!

    that is all..

    #10945
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    #10946
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    LMAO I do!

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    Looking more beastly… needs clear indicators thou I know race car but yeah..

     

    Is that panel damage on the back door or just the pic?

    Whens it seeing a run again?

    #10949
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    The side markers don’t do anything other than block the holes, yeah both the DS doors are damaged I wasn’t too fussed about it as the chances of me binning it are high, next meeting is on the 15th so I’ll be twiddling my thumbs till then as it’s ready to go now!  (has to be a first for me, usually working on them on the trailer the morning of the event…)

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    Today End!

    Remembered I had to adjust the Speedo to suit the Offroad Tyres..

    Took a couple of tries but all done now, while testing I noticed 3 of my Flaps were rubbing (don’t ya hate that)…

    The front 2 on turning and the rear left straight ahead.. Trimmed the Fronts so was an easy fix, rear left due to the inner guard being a totally different shape it was kicking out the bottom 1/3rd where I’d bolted it with a Nutsert, bit of a panel beating session then pressed it all flat with my flanging tool new Nutsert and it’s all good!

    #11025
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    bit of a panel beating session ….

    Coz race car ;-)

    #11028
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    bit of a panel beating session ….

    Coz race car

    LOL yeah don’t mind hitting it with a BIG Hammer!!  :yahoo:

    Good job on fixing the e-mail notifications as well!

    (assuming it was GG and not you so thanks to her)

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    Today End!

    When I was fiddling yesterday I noticed the WBo2 in the Lexcen had finally died, it was one I’d had in my old Supra for a very long time then transferred it to the Tonner when the big engine was in it, I’d added a second sensor and display before I realised it was a WOTAM running Dual so left one in the Tonner and one in the Lexcen…

    The one in the Tonner I’d sent back and had it converted to read out in Lambda and to have more “range” ended up pulling it and it’s sensor out and putting it into the Lexcen where it’s needed (the Tonner is a more or less stock 5.7 now running the 6.0L Electronics package and stock tune and it’s very well behaved)

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