VL Berlina Wagon – Factory 5.0

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Yep, get that ll goog.  Got it happening on Bookface too, how about VLW-304?

 

[Anonymous View build HERE Member since: January 1, 1970 Posts: 0]

WAG304?

 

[sands vsParticipant vs commodore View build HERE Member since: March 1, 2015 Posts: 619]

VRSenator065 wrote:

Used the VL for its first tow duties on the weekend, runs awesome when started, but has devloped a cold start issue. Bit of research and it sounds like maybe a common problem with the Quadrajet, so reckon I might buy an overhaul kit and have a crack at doing it myself. 

 

If you get stuck shoot me a pm mate can guide you through it or if you get really stuck send it down to Melbourne I can get the old man to rebuild it for you.

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

sands vs wrote:

VRSenator065 wrote:

Used the VL for its first tow duties on the weekend, runs awesome when started, but has devloped a cold start issue. Bit of research and it sounds like maybe a common problem with the Quadrajet, so reckon I might buy an overhaul kit and have a crack at doing it myself.

If you get stuck shoot me a pm mate can guide you through it or if you get really stuck send it down to Melbourne I can get the old man to rebuild it for you.

Awesome, thanks very much.  Kinda leaning toward this for the plates

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Anonymous wrote:

WAG304?

You see Volvo in mine, I see fag in that

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Forgot to update this, been a bit distracted with the Senator!!  But I can confirm I love this car!! It’s such a cool cruiser. It makes you want to wind down the window, have the elbow out, one had on the wheel and cruise.  We have a race meeting coming up in Whyalla, and lately, it’s been hotter than the surface of the sun here in S.A. So decided it was time to refresh the cooling system. So brand new copper radiator, new hoses throughout, water pump, and fan belts for insurance. Since doing that I also did the thermostat, also replaced the fan clutch which was shagged.  I also changed the plugs, leads and dizzy cap. I don’t think any of it had been touched since 1987. It just runs so nice now.

[shredParticipant 07 SSV 88 BT1 TURBO 97 VS EXEC View build HERE Member since: March 2, 2015 Posts: 55]

good stuff mate great to see some peoples vls are actually on the street

the vl really is an investment car at this point in time treat it right and the value can only go up

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Have driven the old girl to work for the last couple of days, I want to put some miles on it to flush out any problems.  So far so good, once it has started it runs perfectly.  But only little niggle is it loses cranking speed and so is hard to start once it’s hot, I am guessing the cable to the starter and/or earth lead are bit corroded, so might pull them off and clean the terminals and check them.  It also still has the overnight cold start issue which I am pretty sure is the carby, so got an overhaul hit and at some stage, I will pull it off and have a go.

[sands vsParticipant vs commodore View build HERE Member since: March 1, 2015 Posts: 619]

See how you go with the carb and wiring.

 

I fitted one of these and it helped a lot as well with warm starting

 

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Starter-Motor-Relay-Kit-V8-4-6cyl-Holden-Ford-Valiant-loom-wiring/400593399790?epid=1831873390&hash=item5d453a2fee:g:VYQAAOSwN6NbQvw0:sc:AU_StandardDelivery!3199!AU!-1:rk:3:pf:1&frcectupt=true

 

 

got that kit worked well and was super easy to install

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Cheers, I might try cleaning up what’s there first, then if that doesn’t solve it give that a go.

[ImmortalityParticipant 97 HSV Senator 185i 02 VX L67 Calais View build HERE Member since: August 31, 2015 Posts: 535]

The starter motor relay kit is highly recommended as it will improve starting and also stop the ignition switch burning out which is a common fault in the early girl Commodores.

I’m not intricately familiar with the VL wiring  but if it’s similar to the earlier VB-VK it is also good to fit extra relays into the headlight harness which again is to stop the main headlight switch from burning out.

[cava454Moderator 93 VR BT1 View build HERE Member since: February 20, 2015 Posts: 2 390]

This would be nice with an injected 304

[Heron SSVParticipant Central Coast NSW2009 Pajero Exceed 84 VK SL LS3 View build HERE Member since: May 5, 2015 Posts: 585]

cava454 wrote:

This would be nice with an injected 304

This.

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Thanks for the relay tip.  Would anyone be able to show me a basic wiring layout of how to do it?  I am guessing Supercheap would sell them?

Not going injected simply as I want to keep it original even though I know it would be better . Imo this car deserves to be left as it is. I think with a carby rebuild it should be sorted. The Quadrajet is actually a really good carby when right.

[VS 5.0Participant Perth WAVE SSV Z Series M6 View build HERE Member since: March 31, 2015 Posts: 118]

cava454 wrote:

This would be nice with an injected 304

There is a pretty tough 454 that needs to be installed in a bay too.

Nice work on this Gary. Coming up a treat.

Keen for that vid your promised a while back.

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[ImmortalityParticipant 97 HSV Senator 185i 02 VX L67 Calais View build HERE Member since: August 31, 2015 Posts: 535]

VRSenator065 wrote:

Thanks for the relay tip. Would anyone be able to show me a basic wiring layout of how to do it? I am guessing Supercheap would sell them? .

 

Are you familiar with the standard automotive relay which you can get from any major automotive retailer?

Basically, grab a 12v, 30amp relay from your preferred supplier and mount it somewhere on the passenger side.  Take the +12v wire that is normally connected starter motor solenoid and connect it to pin 86 on the relay and connect pin 85 to a good ground (earth) and that is the signal side of the wiring sorted.  Than get some heavy gauge wire at least as big as the original wire going to the starter motor solenoid (that you just connected to pin 86 in the relay) and run it from the battery to pin 87 on the relay, fitting a fuse is certainly a good idea (fit it at the battery end of the wire) and then run another wire (same heavy gauge) from the relay (pin 30) onto the starter motor solenoid.

 

This is a good example, just substitute starter motor where it says fuel pump in this drawing…

 

 

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

Awesome, you sir are a legend!!  Funnily enough to I am actually a fully qualified Radio Tradesman, just pretty rusty on the wiring side!!

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

VS 5.0 wrote:

Keen for that vid your promised a while back.

Did you mean of the VL or Senator mate, on the 454 thread are the dyno vids if you haven’t seen them 

[VS 5.0Participant Perth WAVE SSV Z Series M6 View build HERE Member since: March 31, 2015 Posts: 118]

VRSenator065 wrote:

VS 5.0 wrote:

Keen for that vid your promised a while back.

Did you mean of the VL or Senator mate, on the 454 thread are the dyno vids if you haven’t seen them

The VL.

Seen those 454 vids….beast mode activated !

[VRSenator065Participant Adelaide SAVR Senator LSx454 1960 Kombi (project) 1921 Nash Hot Rod (future project) View build HERE Member since: February 17, 2015 Posts: 5 777]

No problems. Will take one of the VL. NVL quite the same as the LS but have to say the sound of a Holden V8 at idle is hard to beat…

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