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Im pretty sure i have seen those on the street commodores forum didnt he have ve gts wheels on one of them? Nice rigs the both of them.

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What’s the budget?

what power your hoping for.

Torque comes with power…

^not this chestnut again.  I agree peak power and peak torque are two sides of the same coin.  So if all you are interested in is racing or impressing your mates at the pub with a number then great otherwise its just one part of the picture.  Are you really saying that my car with 600hp/600 ft lb will drive exactly the same as a 3L turbo Nissan making 600hp/600 ft lb?  Because the fact one makes 80% of peak at 2,000 rpm vs the other that maybe would make half that at 2,000rpm are going to drive very differently on the street. How often does a street car actually spend at redline vs how long at 3,000 rpm?

Answer me this, if torque and power are two sides of the same coin why do all engine dynos and engine builders measure both?

Btw, awesome update, car looks mint

Yep, as someone who runs a mechanical engineering business I kinda get that.  Power and Torque are related but that does not mean they are the same thing, honestly saying they are “two sides of the same coin” really is a bit simplistic (by that I means yes its sort of true, but no its sort of not).

For Cav to say torque comes with power, is sort of inferring two cars that make 600HP have the same torque.  Thats just not even close to being true.  And what I have said above is that even two cars that make the same power and torque still aren’t the same because its how and where that torque is delivered that matters.  Engine builders care about power and torque, why?

I do appreciate its not a clear cut black or white thing, and not wanting to pick an argument btw (kinda my personality too though   )

Nope and nope, they’re directly related, Torque and power cross around 5400 rpm it’s how Dyno’s work, you’re talking about a totally different thing, “area under the curve” of course a large displacement or blown engine will produce useable power earlier in the rev range than a small one but 600/600 is 600/600 no matter how it’s made.

In the real world having the widest possible power band results in a much easier/nicer car to drive, you can lug it in higher gears and don’t have to downshift as often, downside to the smaller engine making the same power/torque is that it’ll be in a very narrow powerband, and you need to shift gears often to keep it there.

I’m not arguing for the sake of arguing it’s just the way things are.

I stand by my statement power/torque are 2 sides of the same coin.